Thursday, September 17, 2009

This is getting really old........

Rehashing my history again....

Last "Real" run.....11/16/2008 - San Antonio Marathon

Rest Breaks and attempts to come back:

1st - 12/28 - 2 weeks off
2nd - 2/2 - 4 weeks off (some swimming) - attempt up to 3 miles then uncomfortable so stopped
3rd - 3/18 - 5.5 weeks since 2nd (lots of biking some swimming) - attempt up to 5 miles - re-sfx'd worse than ever before - clock starts over.
4th - 7/11 - 15 weeks since 3rd (no biking or swimming) - very short (.6 mile) test runs - slight soreness next day.
5th - 8/1 - 18 weeks since 3rd (some swimming) - still counting from 3rd as 4th I don't think really re-aggravated......slowly progressed thru the month totalling ~60 miles for the month maxing out at 7 miles with a walk break in the middle. A little sourness but seemed to be getting better but then seemed to be getting worse so stopped again 9/2...

..pain initially wasn't quite in the right place - lower in the glut - maybe at SI or piriphormis......but after some days the soreness started again back higher where the SFX was. I tried a weekend of biking (30,55 milers) then it seemed sore again for a few days. I recently switched to pool running ~20-30 minutes a day but now that seems to be making the soreness increase too so I guess I'll stop doing that......I'd really like to get some fitness back but it seems whatever I try is just going to extend my outage.....

Still looking for something that can get me some general fitness - not sure what to try next.

Now the question at hand - when to plan for Attempt #6 ... 18 weeks last time wasn't enough but I don't think I'm as bad off as I was at the end of March - do I count from my last run, my biking or my pool running - I guess since I'm as sore now as I was at my last run I should count from now so 9/17 + 18 weeks = makes January 14th - yikes that a long time away ... this is really really getting old :<.

Guess I'll go do another round with the doctors to see if they can give me other options..

5 comments:

Michael Busch said...

Hey John, so sorry to hear that you are continuing to have problems. You are in my thoughts every morning when I sent out good wishes to all the people who are suffering through injuries.
I have been running for about 6 weeks now but I remain concerned as I have minor soreness at times in different places such as my pubic symphysis, right adductor, and my right hip. None of the soreness has been bad and I really don't feel sore when I am running at all, just a bit afterwards. I haven't been able to add any intensity or longer runs or I get noticeably more sore afterwards. I have been running about 5 to 6 miles 5 days a week and as long as I stay in that range, with easy intensity, I seem to be OK, not great, but OK. I ran 8.25 last Saturday and thought I had reinjured myself but after 2 days off I felt fine again. I am frustrated that I continue to feel mild soreness and an overall lack of any ability to push things. I worry everyday that I will be back to square one. I don't know if I am OK to continue since I don't really feel any issues during my runs, or whether to stop again since I seem to be plateaued and not able to push mileage or intensity. I have been running all of my runs on soft trails, and avoiding any hills or asphalt. It is a pain since I have to drive to run everyday but it seems safer at this point to keep on soft surfaces and to avoid the hills.
I wonder if you can give me a bit more description as to the type of pain you are having, the intensity of it, whether it is always localized to one area, and whether you had any pain or soreness during your runs. I just am concerned that I am fooling myself and maybe am running when I shouldn't. I don't want to jeopardize my long term running prospects as I know you understand what I mean.
Be well and keep us informed. Again, you are in my thoughts everyday, as is JValentine. I really worry for her also that she is in bad shape.

kayry said...

I've heard it said some pain in the area of the injury when coming back is normal. But for me it seems to be a sign to stop.

Initial soreness for me I think was siatica - a nerve pinch around the SI joint area. Very low threshhold. Then along the piriformis - sometimes around the hip, sometimes deep in the glute but seemed to be staying along about how the piriformis runs - top of the hip to mid/bottom of the sacrum - again threshhold very low. Occasionally I'd feel a little sensitivity up higher where the stress fracture was - Sacrum Ala - right at the top where the sacrum sits on the Pelvic bone just below the belt- not usually while running - more often upon waking up or while sitting or walking. More recently while walking it seems to be kinda all the above - siatica/piriformis/sacrum ala - mostly while walking around. I've stopped all since Tuesday and it's deminishing but still I can feel something not quite right so I'll stay stopped...

...I'm out trying to pick up a used Kayak - figured I'd try to get some upperbody mile in :-).

Good luck Mike - don't know if this is helpful to you. It's a tough call to know when to back off or not - I sure haven't figured it out...

elf said...

I'm so with you, John. I just can't get better. I'm not really giving myself a chance, though--I keep trying to run, though not much and not often. I'm just so tired of having to take time off.

I signed up for Ten for Texas today for two reasons: 1) I really like the event, and 2) I have a free entry from last year. The free entry depressed me a little, though--I have it because I finished 3rd overall and won my age group. I don't think I'll be able to run the whole 10 miles this year--I haven't run that far since January, and I haven't run at all in almost two weeks. Even when I am running, it's maybe three times a week at most. Being a broken down runner suuuuucks.

Best of luck to you, John--I hope that you're back out on the roads again soon...

Joe Garland said...

I dropped you a line long ago after your Houston race, noting that you had move to a different level, which I see you continued in 2008.

Don't know if this will help, but I wrote about a seeming unending series of injuries that left me doubting I'd ever run more than a few miles again. I've since run as well as or better than ever, including a relatively-quick marathon and a couple of road relays, with only the isolated ache and pain (and one shattered elbow).

Good luck, keep the faith, and here's to you also escaping the darkness.

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